2.3.15

would anyone be willing to donate to a kickstarter for sending me away on a retreat so i can just clear my head and finish these troubling troubling edits!?

32 comments:

Anonymous said...

i bet lots of people would but it seems it would perhaps be hard for you to muster the vulnerability required to create a kickstarter

sam pink said...

haha i figured someone would think i was serious. 'vulnerability' needed? how the fuck do you need to be vulnerable to beg strangers for money you don't need? i think 'shameless' is the word you're looking for.

Anonymous said...

what's wrong with shamelessly asking for money? some people like to support artists, and sometimes artists aren't able to make a project happen unless they have the funds to pay for it beforehand, rather than being able to simply sell it once it's created. or some artists simply aren't talented enough to ensure they'll be able to sell it. should they therefore not have the chance to create? if people want to ask for money and others want to give it to them, what's wrong with that? what's the problem? i'm really curious.

sam pink said...

what's wrong with talking shit about it?

what's wrong with that artist not being able to make their project happen?

what's wrong with struggling a little to make something happen?

what's wrong with missing an opportunity to create something?

i dont give a fuck if people do it, or if people want to help, but it doesn't chnge my opinion on it.

why can't i have an opinion without it meaning, to you, tht i want things to be my way?

unlike you, i'm ok with shit i dont agree with, but i'm not going to suddenly agree with it based on tht being the prevailing opinion.

diversity my friend.

why do you care what i say about it anyway?

sam pink said...

also, didn't know this needed to be clarified, but if you need a lot of money to create something, it's probably bullshit anyway. what do you need money for that you couldn't do on a smaller/less glamorous scale anyway?

sam pink said...

lastly, where did you go for your artist's retreat?

Anonymous said...

haha, i am in fact on a retreat of sorts right now which is why i have time to leave stupid blog comments but i didn't create a kickstarter to do it, although i do have plenty of privileges.

what's wrong with talking shit about you talking shit about it?

why can't i have an opinion on your opinion, without it meaning, to you, that i want you to change your opinion?

i'm simply enjoying the debate. the fact that you are responding so passionately is fun for me. i don't mean you any harm.

re: 'if you need a lot of money to create something, it's probably bullshit anyway' what about musical artists trying to create an album using particular perhaps expensive instruments or recording equipment? does the expense in all cases invalidate the art? the fact that you can make a blanket statement like the one i just quoted is what causes me to respond to you. sometimes i feel an uncontrollable urge to play devil's advocate when i am confronted with someone who seems smart and funny and cool and yet, in my view, unnecessarily judgmental. however, i appreciate your argument that i am being just as judgmental in not just letting you be who you are, but again, i am not engaging you with the hopes of changing you, but simply for my own entertainment, and because i didn't think it would cause you any suffering for me to engage you. you seem angry about it but it also seems to me that you like being angry, or something, otherwise i dunno why you'd be so angry all the time.

i value being nonjudgmental, maybe above all else, whereas you seem to value having the right to be judgmental, which is interesting.

diversity indeed! namaste my nigga

sam pink said...

i knew that anyone upset about my opinion on it, would in fact be someone who has been, is, or will be on a 'retreat.' what are you retreating from? why do people feel the need to 'get away' from their life to make their art? you dont understand why some people would feel that's stupid, and not be afraid to call it stupid? and 'not being judgmental' is the biggest lie anyone tells themselves. you are alive one time, and to not judge everything you encounter is to neutralize your life nd hand it over to some ideal of being 'indifferent.' i don't 'like' or dislike being angry, i just am, because i have a tendencey to be aggressive or confrontational in a culture that tries its hardest to neutralize people like that. so it makes me even angrier. and maybe i do like it a little, in that i'm not trying to be 'chill' for the sake of not seeming angry. it's not pointless brutal macho anger, it is much more joyful and caring to me. i wish more people were angry. the fact people pride themselves on never being angry or judgmental is a sign you're living in a decadent/frivolous culture/times. you even calling me judgmental is you being judgmental, do you see that? you 'valuing' something is you judging it. get past that self-appointed transcendence of yours. there is absolutely nothing wrong with you tlking shit bout me talking shit tht's why i leave comments on. you can say whatever you want. but that doesnt mean i won't come back at you. enjoy it, it's part of being human. if done without ego or ulterior motive, it is a very natural and rewarding thing. and yeah, i stnd by the 'needing money to create something means it's bullshit' opinion. no one needs expensive musical equipment to make good music. you dont need expensive equipment to make a good movie or book. you dont need to hang out with other artists in a bougie retreat to complete a book. if money made good art, then more rich people masquearading as artists (because they have nothing to do and need a hobby) would be taken seriously. thought you were cool until i read 'namaste.' what are you working on at your retreat?

Anonymous said...

maybe there is no escape from being judgmental, i'm not sure. because my aversion to your judgment is definitely its own form of judgment. i guess i just find such thought processes as 'i don't like that person' or 'that's stupid' to be boring and pointless, so when i find myself having such a thought process, which i generally only have in response to other people being judgmental, i find i have to follow it through somehow.

but in the grand scheme of things, i honestly don't mind you being you, or even racists being racists, or murderers being murderers, for example, i think the world is just how it is, but i also think engaging people and expressing opinions can be fruitful for me to learn something.

Anonymous said...

haha, knew you'd hate the namaste

Anonymous said...

i went on retreat because i was trying to quit smoking weed [not because weed is 'bad' but because i couldn't quit it] and found myself unable to in new york city surrounded by weed

sam pink said...

even you saying 'in the grand scheme, I dont mind' makes you seem hugely judgmental. 'oh, i suppose i'll let this person with his own thoughs slide, in the GRAND SCHEME.' who's grand scheme? also, nice sly rhetorical move of lumping me in with racists and murderers. lastly though, i appreciate youat least engaging. i really do. and you're right that simply thinking 'that person is stpid' is a waste. but that's not what i'm doing. i also think not trusting your instincts is a waaste. how is the brunch buffet at the retreat, love?

sam pink said...

you're on a retreat to quit smoking weed because it's hard in new york...

so you're deferring judgment on yourself nd placing it on an abstraction?

and for weed? tht's the most cupcake shit i've ever heard.

is this coextensive with the 'need to quit chocolate' retreat?

I"M JUDGING YOU! I"M GOING TO HELL FOR ANGRY UNCHILL PEOPLE!!!!

sam pink said...

email me and i'll send you pdfs of my books if you want, and you can read them on retreat.

Anonymous said...

i dunno, the weed was part of it, but mostly i just wanted to live in a cabin alone for a couple months and not have to have a day job for once in my life. i'm not working on anything in particular, i'm just a shithead.

it's interesting that your reaction to the culture, your idea of how to be radical, is to be confrontational and angry. my attempt to be annoyingly openly loving, which is definitely more easy to make fun of, is in my opinion, just as radical, and just as silenced by the culture in different ways.

i wasn't grouping you in with racists and murderers, i was contrasting you with them on the other end of the spectrum.

sam pink said...

it's probablt pretty easy to be openly loving (a terrible terrible lie, but a fun identity!) when you dont have to work and can live in a fucking retreat for a couple months to quit a harmless recreational drug. tell the homeless guys on my block who are fighting over half a cigarette they should just be openly loving with everyone. tell someone who's little brother got accidnetally shot tobe openly loving. save that shit for your memoir. i never said anything about being radical. only bullshit modern yuppy/hippies still think shit like that.

Anonymous said...

i disagree re: "you are alive one time, and to not judge everything you encounter is to neutralize your life nd hand it over to some ideal of being 'indifferent.'"

i think i can be just as effective at [whatever] by engaging with people while trying not to judge them.

as for 'get past that self-appointed transcendence of yours' i feel i could say the same thing to you.

i agree that no one needs expensive stuff to make good art, and in terms of my own art, i hope to use as little resources as possible. but you sell books, right? on paper? the more books you sell, the more paper used... the more expensive that is... do you want to sell books?

Anonymous said...

you're absolutely right, my place of privilege is what allows me to have the perspective i have. but i can't help it, this is the way i am. given all the privileges i have, i see no reason to be angry or judge anyone, such as murderers, who i assume had a terrible life leading up to whatever the fuck, or people using kickstarter. if i had a shitty life, i'm sure i would be angry. but i have all the things i need, so why shouldn't i appreciate that and exude appreciation? that doesn't mean that given the chance, i wouldn't destroy the entire banking system.

Anonymous said...

also to conclude, i absolutely don't think my way of living or viewpoint is better or more valid than yours, this is just the way i am

sam pink said...

how old are you, you sound like a 16 year old 'rebel' with a septum piercing and dreadlocks talking about 'corporations.' thank you for confirming my viewpoint on pampered artists and communicating with people in general. i don't have time right now to tell you more about why i hate your thinking and people like you in general, but...fuck it, i was going to say that as you get older and your first pet dies or whatver major tragedy happens in your life you might have some epiphanies, but anyone with a few months to kill escaping that awful weed-centric city life is never going to do/think anything other than re-puked stupid abstract starbucks philosophy. so fuck you. also, my books are p.o.d. which means they don't get printed until people order them, so the resources are paid for in advance. and i mostly give books away anyway. anyhow, in conclusion, you are delusional, have absolutely no point of reference for everything you say, and you will probably always have more money and privilege thn most of the people around you, all the while bitching about 'banking' or walmart or whatever. you're bogus. fuck you. steal my books if you want them because i don't want any of your dad's money

Anonymous said...

in fact sometimes i annoy myself by being this way, but i honestly do just feel a lot of love like fuck man too many mushrooms i guess, someone should rape me i guess

Anonymous said...

this is awesome. thank you. i'm 26.

sam pink said...

and thanks for the passive-agressive disclaimer, i was really worried you thought your opinions were better than mine.

sam pink said...

i have a lot of love too, for a very small amount of things, which makes it more genuine than 'loving everything.' don't blame mushrooms, i've done mushrooms a lot and i'm not like you. unsure why you'd want anyone to rape you.

Anonymous said...

i don't bitch about walmart. i just think it would be interesting to see what would happen if our infrastructure fell apart.

ok. you are more genuine than me. i suck and you don't. i've never worked hard or suffered. nice speaking with you.

Anonymous said...

one final thought: i don't view myself as nonjudgmental, i just think it's a good challenge, for me, to try to be nonjudgmental.

Anonymous said...

also i'm sure you're over this shit by now but i want to say that actually, i think your apparent ability to confront people in your own angry way is awesome, now that i've thought about it more. i think i do worry too much about politeness. but i suppose i think if i actually want to be able to have a conversation with someone different from me, politeness helps. i don't think my way of existing is decadent/frivolous just because i don't get angry. that doesn't mean i don't express my opinion or engage others and it doesn't mean i don't think for myself.

but i'm not sure what your goal is... i'm not sure if you're interested in engaging others, it seems like maybe you're more interested in attacking their egos, which is cool too.

in conclusion hopefully for real this time, i don't want someone to rape me. i was suggesting that as an avenue to me becoming jaded since according to you i haven't suffered enough yet. i don't really think it would work though, i'm pretty sure i'd still be just as annoying afterwards.

jereme said...

'I just want to be alone in a cabin (for once) while being connected to millions of people on the internet'

Is funnier than the weed retreat, I think.

Anonymous said...

i think i started trolling you because when you post stuff like "that shamelessly unaware shit where someone tweets or quotes (with enthusiasm) when some celebrity recommends their book. a person they don't even fucking know or have any relation to" it just seems to me like you could be doing better things with your time, than publicly complaining about stupid shit. like that post is really uninteresting to me, compared to many of your other posts, which are creative and unexpected and insane and hilarious. the above observation doesn't ring to me of creativity, it rings to me of pointless haterade, which is something else you complain about in another post, which i also commented on, and you awarded me with some golden dicks, which i appreciate.

but i also acknowledge that this is your blog and my opinion doesn't matter, i just became intoxicated with the ability to anonymously comment, forgive me, to make up for it i can offer you free lodging and (gluten free, abused-vegetable free) meals at my upcoming 'need to quit chocolate' retreat. namaste my brother of the wind flowing through the bubbles of meaningfulness on the back of an orgasming sparrow

Anonymous said...

^that is the name i've chosen for you, and if you come to the retreat i will have my three children bathe you in the fur of seventeen skinned cats mixed with the tears of my three children which will create a magic mist around your head made of love, which will then envelop you, suffocate you until you die, and you'll be reborn as the sparrow, and the sparrow will land on a rock at the edge of a cliff, and the rock will become dislodged and fall down and hit me in the head, and then i'll die and never have to suffer the injustices of smoking weed or eating chocolate again.

sam pink said...

i post shit as it comes to me without much thought. it's more important to me to throw shit out there, on this blog, as i think/feel it, to record something, nd not worry about if it's entertaining and pc for everyone. and yeah, i'm an angry person so sometimes it's going to be angry shit. to me, you not liking it, as with the retreat comment, is more indicative of your ego/tastes trying to filter out something rather than any objective quality. with that said, i'm glad you discussed things with me. and i'm glad there is this record of it happening, for me to learn from.

Daniel Ian said...

This was beautiful, really.